You must find a range of hands on your opponents and adjust your aggression accordingly. By studying there betting patterns and remembering what they play and how they play you can form a strategy of your own to defeat that opponent. You are the fish! If you are on the button, why not limp in with a random hand and raise the flop if you can isolate. Raise it again and take down the pot if your opponents acts weak and you can represent a believable hand.
Worst case scenario, you get caught bluffing and show a So what! Poker has evolved, ABC poker is very exploitable. The Vegas games get tougher every single year. ABC poker will not sustain any form of decent lifestyle. The starting hands mentioned in this article have a positive EV.
Please keep it up. I once had your attitude. Sure would like to have a return of the money that notion cost me. I enjoy playing poker, and use it as a source to find extra income from time to time.
Anyone who has played a few thousand hours of poker will tell you that the cold streaks are unbearable. You routinely get your money in good, Aces vs Queens, nut flush vs a set, set vs straight draw, and keep getting outdrawn. If your bankroll is as low as some on these comments have talked about winning a few grand then quitting their jobs to play , they will be rudely awakened a while down the road, when their luck runs up.
The bottom line is that this strategy is exploitable. And while few players will exploit it, you need to be aware of its exploitability, and learn to exploit it yourself. The first thing to note about this strategy is that there is very little bluffing.
This alone is exploitable. An even bigger exploit is folding. When they bet the flop, then the turn, they have top pair or better, so fold. The biggest exploit, however, is the turn raise. If your opponent is routinely betting 1 pair hands for value on the turn, then they will lose money to someone who is willing to raise them. They will either routinely call off the rest of their stack to the raise, or will routinely fold top pair to a raise.
Once you identify which of these two a particular player favors, exploit it. If they fold too often, then raise them on the turn relentlessly. In fact, learning to exploit ABC poker, as is outlined here, is the first step to really learning to play poker. Better players have written better books than I ever could about this subject, but trust me when I say that this strategy, while it will win you a small amount of money over time against really bad players, will not be enough for you to try to turn pro in.
More realistically: to a raise, play only AK, suited or not, and pairs TT or better. Otherwise, in early position, play only pairs 99 or better, or AJ or better, suited or not. This is a great article for those players who are looking to tighten up their game and cut out some common bad habits. In Vegas, good luck! However, where I play this strategy is perfect.
Its relatively easy money. To those of you who get upset when someone is calling you down with garbage, why are YOU mad? I am always happy to have my opponent put their money in bad. If they catch up, oh well, thats poker for you. I 3 bet light and hopefully hit a set.. SMH… why the hell are you commenting on this article. You are an angry soiled little fool who needs to change its diaper! Ill put my two cents in. There is NO tried and true formula to win at poker, especially no limit. When it comes down to it, there are two ways to win a hand in poker.
A showdown or a fold by your opponents. And if there are 5 people chasing the flop each hand, good luck with that on the showdown side. Its not that AA cant hold up against four players going to the river. Its that by that point there are so many mathematical combinations of hands that could beat an umimproved AA that its borderline impossible to know where you stand. Thats why many people complain about the fish and cant beat them…thus making THEM fish. The players who CAN fold are the ones you need to show aggression to, whether you have a hand or not.
I truly think its the knowing of which player it is, how much pressure you need to apply for a fold, without taking too much risk in the process, and the ability to lay down very strong hands when very strong evidence you are beat that separates world class players from everybody else.
Phil Ivey often talks about not having a strategy and adapting to what the table gives him. I agree with this strategy except it does not consider different playing fields. Some casinos are full of wish while others are crowds of good players grinding.
I have been playing poker for quite awhile now, read this article and I played for a week using this strategy. Read the players, who is good, who grinds daily and the fish. After playing for a few days at the casino, ive come to know the regulars who I have now made friends with.
I made Monday Tuesday, Wednesday made and Thursday !! Like it says below in a comment you do need firepower. I sometimes have to grind out while not hitting flops. All you fresh players that read this… Trust me and this site. You just need to learn when to fold.
Good luck fishes and thanks for the strategy pokerlistings! Thanks for my new career! A lot of info here but still the monkeys seem to suck out a good amount of the time. Yes I call them all monkeys at the table some of them put me on tilt as soon as I see them sit down. I am working on that. I ask why u even call. Answer I had Jackson 5 I love mike.
Shit like this puts me in orbit happens all the time. I play at a gambling joint where they take a rake. Lots of calling stations and goofs.
I guess my question is does anyone else encounter fools like this. Or we have the all in guys after the flop last night I go all in pre flop w kk 2 shorter stacks after me plus a real big stack they fold he calls with qj off of course he goes jj runner runner wtf. I think calling this article horrible is a little overboard.
I am by no means a great player and still have lots and lots to learn about the game. You say that playing ABC poker is easy to ready and people catch on, which is true against a better player. Most of these guys are total stations!!! I watch people all the time calling huge re-raises out of position praying to flop a set, calling down every street trying to hit their gutterball and so forth.
One thing about this article I disagree with is betting hard with top pair or better. I prefer thin value bed with my solid pair and two pair, as to not get pot committed while still getting value. A set or better then sure, start pumping it up. I do agree that ego is one of the most damaging things you can add to your game, but to tell a bunch of beginners that might be checking out this site, that sticking to TAG play when starting out is wrong, shows that your ego is getting the best of you right now.
None of you are long-term winning players. Including the author of this article. Seriously, this article is fucking terrible. I want to gauge my eyes out. While poker is a skill game and any luck is pretty irrelevant, skill is probably the least important part.
Then comes the understanding that poker is a JOB. You have to play a minimum of 50 hours a week while limiting your expenses to almost null. If you play here and there just to make a couple of hundred bucks, unless you play 3 times and never play again for the rest of your life, it will catch up to you and you will lose.
Poker is not a game you can just play once in a while, you MUST keep your mind sharp to consistently parlay. Low stake NL winners? I have to type the following in caps to emphasize a point:. Onto the skill of playing NL poker. Impossible, literally. First of all, your play becomes obvious. When your hands become transparent you lose all implied odds. Secondly, ABC poker or tight-aggressive is the average field. I see tons of these types of articles and the strategy works most of the time.
The problem I have is that a lot of people are reading these types of articles and the fish are starting to disappear. I play in MICH. We have these charity places all over the State. I also loved the Beginner Poker Tips article on this site too.
This stuff was OK, but there was really nothing contained therein which is not old stuff! Sometimes the jargon that is used becomes corny. One learns, when one actually sees and experiences a particular set of circumstances.
Not too many can learn or better yet recall, by just reading! I also won the most money that night. I am the harpoon!!! For many poker is like fishing.. Gimme boring any day… I will take my chances at the poker table with all the impatient fish.
URel pretty much says it all… this is what I do and I regularly make 2 or more buy-ins on each visit to my local casino. Sometimes the players are a bit tricky but most of the time the table and players are very easy to adapt to in order to take full advantage of their generosity.
If your style resembles that of a 60 year old nit then so be it as long as you are taking money off donkeys, fish, wideboy wanabies.
Whatever it takes, just adapt to the table, players and punish them. A fair few replies to this article are from the fish that this article discusses. Thanks fish, i really appreciate your ignorance and total lack of any common sense. Thankfully many people are like this and no matter how many decent articles are posted in an attempt to educate them they will never wise up… all winning players need such ignorant fish… so please fish dont ever wise up… cheers.
Good article with solid advice… this style of play is very profitable. This is exactly the way I play and I consistently make money. Sure, its a grind playing tight but once you suss out the players at the table you can mix up your game a little depending on the situation.
If your smart enough you will soon see where your and other peoples leaks are. This article is just a great style to adopt from the outset. I agree with Gunnz and Solly on your points too. I love it when people argue regarding strategy, its usually the ones that have zero patience and keep blaming the loose players for their losses..
These are the sort of players you want at your table and if you think otherwise then you are seriously deluded! Thanks for this great articl,,,,i live in las vegas and most of the time played tournaments and limit games,,,,could not figure out in last 2 yrs why its so hard to win a tournament,,,played win only 2,,,so even if u win just count the lossess…. Great article. For those who say you should play looser you are correct and incorrect.
Most novice players will do better by playing tight and not getting in tough situations. If you are a very good player and can dance around the other villains then yes play more hands and out play them but you open yourself up for more variance and possibility of costly mistakes vs sitting back and grinding.
I like playing tight at these tables because you establish this tight table image. Once you have that image the good players at the table will fold when you are in a hand unless they have a very strong hand and the bad players call your raises like you want.
You just need to know when to fold. I like raising when I have a strong pre-flop hand but unless it is very strong I dont raise so much that I get pocket committed before the flop.
By this I mean even if you raise 8xBB trying to get only 1 or two callers you could easily get callers due to the loose villains at the table. So your dillema is you still need to raise pre-flop when you have a hand but dont bet so much that you or your villains get pocket committed before the flop comes out. I like raising 2. In this level it is very important to know who the players are and who the fish are because the skill range is so varied.
If you are a good player you can play the player but you need to have the cards to back it up. Poker is about winning money. Your article is very good.
Those who think it is not, will not be long term winners. I read and studied this strategy and i have to say i went to the casino the next week and left with a huge profit. Its true just bet and wait for good hands and have patience, and of course position, position, position. Thanks for the awesome comment!
All really good stuff and so good to hear it from your personal experience. GL at the tables! I flopped a flush draw, called a small raise from the raiser, who only had a pot sized bet remaining. The next card paired me and gave me a gut shot to boot.
He raised again, I reraised and got him pot committed. Made the straight to his overpair with one of my 14 outs. If he had bought in proper and 3 bet me hard or all in for like 2 or 3 hundred I would have had to fold.
This rule also means buying back in if you get low on chips. Add another or so to your stack and get back in the hunt or pack it up and go home with enough for a tank of gas. If they call and they usually do , then they probably are not getting proper odds to chase and you are more often than not going to get paid. If they fold then your table image goes up. The flop hits me with a rainbow broadway which I check off. An early raise, a late position short stack goes all in, and I just call the all in as does the raiser.
The next card is a blank and I raise big. In more loose-passive games, having the larger stack when you buy in for the maximum will allow you to have a bit more maneuverability. If you buy in for the max, you will be able to wade through these small hits to your stack. Also, having a larger stack means the passing of the blinds won't take so much of a toll on you.
Many lower-limit cash games play passively while tournaments have heightened aggression due to the increasing blind levels. It is often best for lower-limit cash games to play a tight-aggressive game.
And our HEV is even more enhanced since we are less likely to face multiple villains in a raised pot. It's generally easier to outplay a single villain than three of them. Figure 3 depicts the MEV results for various hand types. Each series represents a descending hand grouping.
For example, " T9s- " denotes "suited connectors T9s and smaller. In fact, 33 percent of all starting combos are immediately profitable. And some of the negative-MEV combos are probably profitable for the hand due to our superior position. So our very wide button raising range is valid for any single-limper situation when we are on the button. We can readily extend this to multiple-limper scenarios, which are much more common. This time I will spare you the gory math and show you the results below in Figure 4.
The smooth line represents the average MEV of limping. These curves show that our "immediately profitable" raising range is The previous analysis kept the raise size constant to see the influence of the number of limpers.
A key question we would like answered is how the villains will respond to reasonable variations in raise size. Unfortunately, that data does not exist for these Vegas games. So, to a first approximation, we can assume that the Figure 1 stats do not change very much when we increase our raise size incrementally. Figure 5 shows what happens to MEV Raise as we increase the size of our raise when facing four limpers.
We can see that that our raising range decreases slightly as we increase our raise size. This effect is fairly small and may be counterbalanced by a decreased likelihood that a villain will call a larger raise. These combos are sorted in order of MEV Raise. The important thing to notice in this graph is that we have a much larger MEV when we raise our best hands by the maximum amount that will not result in a villain adjustment.
On the other hand, we should consider betting smaller with our borderline raising hands. Of course, this sets up the possibility that we could be telegraphing our hand strength. Limping has almost died out online bar the weakest recreational players.
While there is nothing wrong with limping behind multiple limpers with non-premium hands, you should seize the opportunity to attack single limpers. In theory it is said that you should raise tighter than your opening range against a limp. This accounts for the reduced fold equity. In practice you should be raising all combos that can make strong hands to exploit the weak player. With the average player playing more hands than in online poker you stand a much greater chance of being forced to play out of position.
With many pots being multiway this is a disaster if you have high cards hands that can give you kicker problems. Even with a large skill advantage, position is still incredibly important for extracting value. Another reason is that your game will likely have other regs who will use it against you by 3 betting and squeezing to target the weak players themselves. In online poker we are lucky to have HUD stats that give an accurate idea of how often an opponent folds.
This means that we have to follow a strategy that targets the overall population tendency. This tendency is, of course, calling too much.
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